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Tuesday, April 13, 2021

Gout: Our Office Handout

Gout: Treat the symptoms Immediately

 

By Richard L.Blake, DPM

 

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  Gout can affect many patients in a podiatry practice. The number one location for a gout attack is the big toe joint, but the other foot joints, the ankle, and the knee can have the excitement of an acute gout attack. In the photo below, the man's left big toe joint is slightly enlarged with some run of the mill wear and tear, and a prime suspect for developing gout in the future. Gout attacks have a propensity for affecting already damaged joint surfaces.

 

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    I look at the source of a gout attack from 3 angles (or a combination of all 3): the kidneys for some reason are not flushing out the uric acid from the blood stream well enough, there is a systemic reason for increased metabolism which is producing more uric acid into the blood stream (uric acid being a normal breakdown product of nucleic acids called purines), and a recent diet of food rich in purines (which breakdown to uric acid).

 

    Common food concerns include:

  1. Limit organ meats, herring, mackerel, and anchovies
  2. Limit red meat such as beef, pork, and lamb (only 4-6 oz daily)
  3. Limit fatty fish and other seafoods such as tuna, shrimp, scallops, and lobster
  4. Limit beer
  5. Limit white bread, cakes, and candies
  6. Limit high fructose soft drinks and sodas
  7. Increase use of plant based proteins
  8. Increase use of low fat and fat free dairy
  9. Increase 100% juices
  10. Use of 5-10 ounces wine daily okay
  11. Use complex carbs such as whole grains, fruits and veggies
  12. Use of 4-6 cups of coffee for men seems to be helpful

 

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 When you get an acute gout attack, your involved joint is normally red, hot, and swollen. The health care provider asks about your kidneys, your overall health, medications you are taking that may affect uric acid metabolism, any recent crash dieting, any recent changes in your diet like a vacation of eating rich foods, beer, etc, and possible infections anywhere that could have seeded the sore area, like a sore throat. A Gout Attack Looks Like An Infection. To help in the diagnosis of possible infection, the lab is asked to get Uric Acid, CBC with differential, and Sed Rate. The last 2 help with infection evaluation. Patients with an infection also may have systemic signs of fever, chills, malaise, etc, not seen with gout attacks.

 

 It is extremely important to know that once you get a gout attack, uric acid levels in your bloodstream drop as the crystals go into the joint, and your blood test is read as normal. But, you are still high normal, and you still did have a gout attack. At my hospital, Saint Francis Memorial Hospital in San Francisco, 8.7 mg/dl is still normal. When a patient comes into the office after a gout attack, the lab may read between 6.5 and 8.0. This patient has gout in my mind. I ask them to get a repeat uric acid test in 1 month and then 2 months to see what the uric acid levels are doing. In a patient whom has suffered a gout attack, even if they are mindful of their diet, their uric acid levels begin to go back up over the next 2 months. It takes these 3 blood tests to get a feel of how unstable the uric acid levels are for this patient.

 

 When a patient has a gout attack, any anti-inflammatory medication helps, like Advil, but I prefer to use indomethacin, but not advised in the elderly or children or those with a history of GI problems. In a normal size adult, you can use 75 mg 3 times over the first 24 hours as a loading dose, then drop to twice daily for the next 9 days. After these first 10 days, it is obvious how easy or hard it is going to be to get the symptoms under control. Most of my gout attack patients are placed into a removable cast to minimize the bending of the big toe joint, with EvenUp on the other side. The patient is advised to take food with indomethacin since it can be hard on the stomach. Gout attacks can occur from 2 days to 3 + months, so you need to treat quickly. Icing is important to both reduce blood flow to the inflamed joint and for pain relief. I prefer the ice slush, but how cruel can I be!! Patients are told to drink, and drink, and drink water to hydrate, deluting the concentration of uric acid quickly in the blood stream. They must also become familiar with foods rich in purines, and try to minimize the ingestion (not eliminate) on a daily basis. Injections into the involved joint to analyze the crystals seem too academic to torture the patients initially, but if the pain is not subsiding in 4 or 5 days, then aspiration and injection of steriod may be appropriate to reduce the inflammation quickly. Since cortisone takes 3 to 7 days to work, and the acute aspect of the gout attack may naturally be over by then, it takes some sixth sense to know who should have the joint aspirated. Ask anyone with an acute gout attack and they will say that the injection was somewhat draconian!!


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 The blood level goal has always been 6mg/dl, but to accomplish that your primary care doctor is normally reluctant to place you on kidney eliminating drugs for the rest of your life like Allopurinol. So, most doctors prefer to counsel their patients on hydration (the more dehydrated you are, the higher the concentration of everything goes in the blood stream including uric acid), exercise for weight reduction, sensible dieting,  and medications to possibly change.

 

    To summarize: the top 10 initial treatments for gout are:

 

  1. Begin a series of 3 uric acid levels.
  2. Rule out infection with history, evaluation of area, and blood work up.
  3. Immobilize the joint involved.
  4. Ice the involved area 3-5 times daily with various forms of cooling.
  5. Begin using an oral anti-inflammatory medication like indomethacin or ibuprofen.
  6. In very severe cases, or if symptoms are not calming down quickly, consider an oral Prednisone Burst, or cortisone injection into the joint. To use cortisone you must be sure that you are not dealing with an infection.
  7. Hydrate well (4-8 glasses of 8 oz water daily).
  8. Understand what foods to avoid.
  9. Discuss the possible role of any new medications started before.
  10. Discuss overall health and weight loss/gain situation.

 

    

 

Wednesday, November 25, 2020

Gout love Ice Better than other Inflammatory Problems!!

The following article presented a discussion on ice versus heat. It seems that if you are having a gout attack, ice packs for 10-15 minutes prevail. Some of the other forms of inflammation actually prefer heat like in wear and tear arthritis. I will have to rethink my recommendation of "When In Doubt, Always Ice!" I still feel the patient must experiment to see what makes them feel better. Rich 

Schlesinger N, Response to application of ice may help differentiate gouty arthritis and other inflammatory arthritides. J Clin Rheumatol. 2006 Dec;12(6):275-6


Thursday, July 16, 2020

Gout Should be Re-Branded to Urate Crystal Arthritis

This abstract, sent to me by Dr. Craig Payne (Australia), really runs true. I make the diagnosis of gout, and maybe five year later their primary puts them on the appropriate drug. During this 5 year period, many joint destructive gout flareups may occur. Rich


https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s43441-020-00198-0?fbclid=IwAR18Jy-Q7dPtG5z3rS0qG7ZH6r-SybDrEMzde43WCKk8DlaaaobrXZ0cjZ0

Monday, March 12, 2012

Update on Gout: A lot of useful information from Gout.com

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Sunday, February 5, 2012

More on Gout

From: Peter Vannucchi, DPM
One reason why there are no high quality evidence studies for gout is due to the fact that the complexities of effective management make it difficult to treat. In Dr. Purdy's community of southern Louisiana, I am certain that primary physicians see lots of gout. Their lack of aggressiveness is not from a lack of understanding the disease, but from the difficulty of getting patients to abstain from the obvious, namely beer. Beer has guanine in it which is rapidly metabolized into uric acid. Beer is the major culprit. So when a patient has a six-pack on Saturday night, you can almost predict that the patient will be in your office or in the emergency room on Monday. 
Patients also eat shellfish (namely mud-bugs and shrimp) as well as organ meat, and lots of red meat. Forget about high-purine vegetables - it turns out they are not a problem. Dairy products  tend to decrease uric acid to some extent. This is all relatively new data that has come out in the literature.


Tuesday, October 18, 2011

Swollen Big Toe: Email Advice

This is a comment I received on the below blog post yesterday. I need to emphasize that my comments are no substitute for someone who can feel the toe, see the toe, and order appropriate tests. I have to only talk in generalizations.


Hi. MY NAME IS NIGEL, I'M 49 YEARS OLD AND I PRESENT VERY SIMILAR SYMPTOMS TO ROBERT. INFLAMED RED TOE, SWELLING AND REDNESS OF THE ENTIRE, AND RESTRICTED TO THE TOE.

http://www.drblakeshealingsole.com/2011/03/swollen-big-toe-gout-or-infection.html


 MY TOENAIL ISN'T SORE EITHER, YET I DON'T SUFFER EXTREME DISCOMFORT WITH ANY OTHER KIND OF SHOE ON.
Dr Blake's comment: With a toe like this is either infection or gout. The redness is the most important sign of infection or gout. Other causes of swelling like arthritis, tendonitis, ganglion cysts, etc do not have the redness associated.


 I FIRST ENCOUNTERED IT ABOUT 2 MONTHS AGO, IT LASTS FOR ABOUT 3 TO 4 DAYS THEN IS GONE. WHAT I HAVE NOTICED IS THAT AFTER WEARING A SPECIFIC PAIR OF TACKIES,THE PROBLEM RAISES IT'S HEAD.
Dr Blake's comment: Gout can give you these transient symptoms that come and go. Infections normally just get worse and worse until the right treatment is started. The tackies (please see the great Wikipedia definition) must put very unique pressure/stress on the big toe that irritates it enough to set off the gouty inflammatory reaction which is lying in wait for something stimulus to irritate the soft tissue. It could be actual pressure (like tightness) or how it makes the toe work.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tackies

 AFTER A FEW DAYS OF WEARING NORMAL SHOES AND SLIPPERS AT NIGHT, THE PROBLEM DISAPPEARS. I'VE TAKEN VOLTAREN TABLETS AND THIS APPEARS TO HELP. COULD THIS BE GOUT?
Dr Blake's comment: I would love to see what those Tackies do (but you may not be in San Francisco ??South Africa??) Definitely if the tackies irritate it only now, later there may be other triggers. So definitely get your Uric Acid Levels tested for Gout. Have xrays taken to rule out other causes of bone/joint inflammation. You may need a arthritis doctor to order a series of arthritis lab tests.
http://www.drblakeshealingsole.com/2010/09/gout-treat-symptoms-immediately.html


 I'VE RECENTLY UNDERGONE A CONCURRENT HEALTH ASSESSMENT WHERE BLOOD SAMPLES WERE TAKEN. WOULD THESE TESTS REVEAL ABNORMAL LEVELS OF URIC ACID IN THE BLOOD? OR SHOULD I ASK FOR SPECIFIC BLOOD TESTS?
Dr Blake's comment: The recent blood tests may have uric acid. See the blog post above for more info on that. If you are in the high normal range for uric acid, you probably have this syndrome I am discussing. If you are in the middle normal range, other causes of inflammation must be evaluated. Common lab tests are CRP (c reactive protein, HLA-B27, Rheumatoid Factor, sed rate, CBC with differential, etc). You really want a smart person ordering, since if you find a problem, you need advice on what to do with that information.

Thursday, March 10, 2011

Gout Inflammation: Pre and Post Injection

From my last post on Robert as he presented with the classic gout vs infection decision making process, I decided to injection a low dose of cortisone into the big toe joint, and the other joint in the big toe (1/2 ml of Kenalog 10 with 1/2 ml of 0.5% Sensorcaine plain). He had not improved on 3 weeks of antibiotics from his primary. There was no reason he should be infected. Here again is the pre-shot photo.

Following the shot, he felt improvement that night. When he returned to the office 5 days, 85-90% of his pain was gone. Here is a post injection photo.

This sounds logical, but the fear of infection makes docs think about antibiotics first. So I am glad I got to the patient second!!

Sunday, March 6, 2011

Swollen Big Toe: Gout or Infection

http://www.drblakeshealingsole.com/2010/09/gout-treat-symptoms-immediately.html
Robert presented with this swollen big toe 2 days ago. It came on suddenly, without incident, and initially was only in the big toe joint. The foot was red around the ball of the foot with the redness over the last 3 weeks spreading to his ankle. His pain is now throughout the big toe, but does not involve the toe nail itself. These presentations are either infection or gout, and there was no reason he should have an infection (no cuts in the skin, etc). His primary care doctor has placed him on 2 courses (10 days each) of antibiotics without relief. Unfortunately, if you have a gout attack, the uric acid crystals leave your blood stream and attack the involved joint, so the blood levels are temporarily within normal limits (but they still are high normal). I decided to place Robert in a post op shoe since he was walking around in his sock (can not take any pressure), and gave him 2 low dose cortisone shots into the 2 involved joints. He called me the next day saying that he was so much better, and actually slept for the first time all night in 2 weeks. Of course, you do not want to give cortisone into a joint that may be infected, but his history and exam did not point to anything but gout. I will check him next week. I also recommended icing 10 minutes 3 to 5 times a day to cool down the joint. I will get blood work in 3 weeks to see what his blood levels of uric acid are then.

Wednesday, September 15, 2010

Gout: Treat the symptoms Immediately


   Gout can affect many patients in a podiatry practice. The number one location for a gout attack is the big toe joint, but the other foot joints, the ankle, and the knee can have the excitement of an acute gout attack. In the photo below, the man's left big toe joint is slightly enlarged with some run of the mill wear and tear, and a prime suspect for developing gout in the future. Gout attacks have a propensity for affecting already damaged joint surfaces.


I look at the source of a gout attack from 3 angles (or a combination of all 3): the kidneys for some reason are not flushing out the uric acid from the blood stream well enough, there is a systemic reason for increased metabolism which is producing more uric acid into the blood stream (uric acid being a normal breakdown product of purines), and a recent diet of food rich in purines (which breakdown to uric acid).


http://www.gout.com/default.aspx?sourcecode=GSCRMKWGOOG000159&gclid=CNPggvbAgqQCFQVcagodJF86JQ

The link above from gout.com is great at getting us all on the same page.

     When you get an acute gout attack, your involved joint is normally red, hot, and swollen. The health care provider asks about your kidneys, your overall health, medications you are taking that may affect uric acid metabolism, any recent crash dieting, any recent changes in your diet like a vacation of eating rich foods, beer, etc, and possible infections anywhere that could have seeded the sore area, like a sore throat. A Gout Attack Looks Like An Infection. To help in the diagnosis of possible infection, the lab is asked to get Uric Acid, CBC with differential, and Sed Rate. The last 2 help with infection evaluation. Patients with an infection also may have systemic signs of fever, chills, malaise, etc, not seen with gout attacks.
http://www.ehow.com/about_5032508_medications-cause-gout-attacks.html

     It is extremely important to know that once you get a gout attack, uric acid levels in your bloodstream drop as the crystals go into the joint, and your blood test is read as normal. But, you are still high normal, and you still did have a gout attack. At my hospital, Saint Francis Memorial Hospital in San Francisco, 8.7 mg/dl is still normal. When a patient comes into the office after a gout attack, the lab may read between 6.5 and 8.0. This patient has gout in my mind. I ask them to get a repeat uric acid test in 1 month and then 2 months to see what the uric acid levels are doing. In a patient whom has suffered a gout attack, even if they are mindful of their diet, their uric acid levels begin to go back up over the next 2 months. It takes these 3 blood tests to get a feel of how unstable the uric acid levels are for this patient.

     When a patient has a gout attack, any anti-inflammatory medication helps, like Advil, but I prefer to use indomethacin. In a normal size adult, you can use 75 mg 3 times over the first 24 hours as a loading dose, then drop to twice daily for the next 9 days. After these first 10 days, it is obvious how easy or hard it is going to be to get the symptoms under control. Most of my gout attack patients are placed into a removable cast to minimize the bending of the big toe joint, with EvenUp on the other side. The patient is advised to take food with indomethacin since it can be hard on the stomach. Gout attacks can occur from 2 days to 3 + months so you need to treat quickly. Icing is important to both reduce blood flow to the inflammed joint and for pain relief. See separate post on icing (I prefer the slush, but how cruel can I be!!) Patients are told to drink, and drink, and drink water to hydrate, deluting the concentration of uric acid quickly in the blood stream. They must also become familiar with foods rich in purines, and try to minimize the ingestion (not eliminate) on a daily basis. Injections into the involved joint to analyze the crystals seem too academic to torture the patients initially, but if the pain is not subsiding in 4 or 5 days, then aspiration and injection of steriod may be appropriate to reduce the inflammation quickly. Since cortisone takes 3 to 7 days to work, and the acute aspect of the gout attack may naturally be over by then, it takes some sixth sense to know who should have the joint aspirated. Ask anyone with an acute gout attack and they will say that the injection was somewhat draconian!!
http://www.drblakeshealingsole.com/2010/04/ice-or-cold-therapy-helps-in-injury.html



     The blood level goal has always been 6mg/dl, but to accomplish that your primary care doctor is normally reluctant to place you on kidney eliminating drugs for the rest of your life like Allopurinol. So, most doctors prefer to counsel their patients on diet, hydration (the more dehydrated you are, the higher the concentration of everything goes in the blood stream including uric acid), exercise for weight reduction, sensible dieting,  and medications to possibly change.